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谢谢。商榷一下。1、在新的移民法中,'intention to abadon'的概念已经被废止,所以移民官不应该有权以此条拒绝任何人入境。2.在CIC的Enforcement Manual EF23(Loss of Permanent Resident Status)中.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛If 730 days remain in the five-year period following the date that the person became a permanent resident, then that person cannot be found to have failed to comply with the residency obligation contained within the Act."
证据:
1. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/irpa/fs%2Dresidents.html
Elimination of the concept of intent to abandon Canada The new Act establishes clear and objective criteria based on physical presence in Canada rather than on factors establishing intent not to abandon Canada.

2.http://www.cic.gc.ca/manuals-guides/english/enf/enf23e.pdf

3。 http://www.cic.gc.ca/manuals-guides/english/op/op10e.pdf
Persons who became permanent residents of Canada less than five years prior to the date of receipt of the application are governed by A28(2)(b)(i). This subsection of the Act allows new permanent residents to qualify under the residency obligation provided that they can potentially
meet the 730- day criteria during the first five-year period immediately after their arrival in Canada.

Even if a person resides away from Canada for up to three years
**********************************************************************
following the date of first arrival in Canada, that person will retain
**********************************************************************
permanent resident status as long as that person still
*****************************************************************
has the possibility of complying with the 730-days-in-Canada rule. An
*****************************************************************************
officer is not permitted to exclude the possibility that an applicant who
**************************************************************************
has resided abroad for three years may still be able to comply with the
****************************************************************************
residency obligation during the remaining two years of the five-year
**************************************************************************
period.


我不是想和您争什么,只是探讨一下。从新法和CIC的网站来看,似乎没有
移民官有权对还有可能满足居住要求的人(即还有两年时间的人)以intent to abandon来拒绝入境。除非他说了慌。
问几句很正常。

有人这种情况被拒入境的吗?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 相约北美 / 定居入籍 / 2003年8月登陆,在加呆三个月回国。2005年7月回来。在多论多机场出境处,接到移民官的警告。
    很不爽。我到明年7月还有两年时间住加拿大。可是这次入境,移民官问了我很多问题,还要求我提供上次离开加拿大的机票,早扔了,但是我还是进来了。有相同情况的XDJM吗?了了?我老公还在中国呢。护照上没有出境记录,移民管怎样知道你呆了多久呢?我是如实申报的,被她警告说我太长时间离境。下次如果还走太长时间,身份有可能被取消。
    • 关注中。如有短登2年后登陆的朋友,也请现身说说情况。 另外,请问移民官都问了你什么问题?
      • 我短登后离开2年9月,今年返回时,在温哥华机场盘问了近十分钟,但关键是你要想好能让移民官认为合理的理由来解释你为什么离开这么久,并会在这次返回后长期居住.我记的我说朋友帮我把房子都找好了,在多市的士家宝BLA, BLA,BLA........
        • 谢谢!
        • 我两年前回国玩了10天,回来入关时鬼子问我为啥就呆了10天就回加拿大了。我说我是趁老板出差时溜回国去玩的。
      • I met the officer not so nice. I talked to her in English, she dinn't want to talk to me. Let a translator to talk to me. She asked where I live? last time when I left canada, why? -----
        • YOUR ENGLISH...
    • 这很正常,移民官会对长期离开加拿大的移民进行评估,如果认为你没有意向在加拿大长期居住,也会当场取消你的身份的,所以入关时接受询问时要小心。
      • 谢谢。商榷一下。1、在新的移民法中,'intention to abadon'的概念已经被废止,所以移民官不应该有权以此条拒绝任何人入境。2.在CIC的Enforcement Manual EF23(Loss of Permanent Resident Status)中.
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛If 730 days remain in the five-year period following the date that the person became a permanent resident, then that person cannot be found to have failed to comply with the residency obligation contained within the Act."
        证据:
        1. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/irpa/fs%2Dresidents.html
        Elimination of the concept of intent to abandon Canada The new Act establishes clear and objective criteria based on physical presence in Canada rather than on factors establishing intent not to abandon Canada.

        2.http://www.cic.gc.ca/manuals-guides/english/enf/enf23e.pdf

        3。 http://www.cic.gc.ca/manuals-guides/english/op/op10e.pdf
        Persons who became permanent residents of Canada less than five years prior to the date of receipt of the application are governed by A28(2)(b)(i). This subsection of the Act allows new permanent residents to qualify under the residency obligation provided that they can potentially
        meet the 730- day criteria during the first five-year period immediately after their arrival in Canada.

        Even if a person resides away from Canada for up to three years
        **********************************************************************
        following the date of first arrival in Canada, that person will retain
        **********************************************************************
        permanent resident status as long as that person still
        *****************************************************************
        has the possibility of complying with the 730-days-in-Canada rule. An
        *****************************************************************************
        officer is not permitted to exclude the possibility that an applicant who
        **************************************************************************
        has resided abroad for three years may still be able to comply with the
        ****************************************************************************
        residency obligation during the remaining two years of the five-year
        **************************************************************************
        period.


        我不是想和您争什么,只是探讨一下。从新法和CIC的网站来看,似乎没有
        移民官有权对还有可能满足居住要求的人(即还有两年时间的人)以intent to abandon来拒绝入境。除非他说了慌。
        问几句很正常。

        有人这种情况被拒入境的吗?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 有道理,你提供的信息真的蛮好的,我的功课做得还不够呀,看了一圈,似乎是这样子的。所以只要满足要求的人,完全可以放心的回来。移民官的问话只是例行程序,没什么可怕的,照实说就完了。
          • 老兄真谦虚。我只是和大家共同探讨一下这个问题。CIC的官方文件应该是很权威了。不排除有移民官有意刁难大家,不过应该他没有权利作进一步的事。我也是近期要回加,所以小心一点为妙。
    • 我也是离开加拿大2年半了,这次入境问我们什么时候离开的,我们是真的忘了.移民官就笑着说,我来check一下.马上就从计算机里调出我们是什么时候离开的.
      • 您遇到任何麻烦了吗?
        • 她先问我要上次回中国的机票,早没了。问我为什麽回去那麽久,问我住哪?问我要呆多久,是不是又住几天就回去。。。。
        • 我觉的只要你能够满足5年住够两年,就不会有什么麻烦.顶多是提醒你一下,你还有多长时间了.我觉他们只是履行一下手续吧了.
      • 不是说CIC无法确定离境时间的吗?只能通过目的海关的入境纪录才能确定何时离加的?
        • 我也不清楚.这次问我们的时候,我跟我老公都忘了,他很清楚的告诉我们是什么时候离开的.
          • 别以为加拿大政府不知道你什么时候进出的
            • 一般是什么理由来回答呢?有必要这样吗,大家不违反法律规定不就行了吗?
      • 谢谢您
        • 再顶一下。这个Thread非常好。这些第一手的信息对短登后现在准备回加入境的同胞有很大的帮助。
          • 对呀,我们离开加拿大机场的时候只是在航空公司CHECK IN,没经过海关盖离境章,入关的时候也是自己填离境日期,那政府如何确定真正的离境日期?
            • 所有国际出入境的航空公司都要给移民局提供旅客名单。
              • 出境加拿大移民局是没有记录的,不过中国海关你的出入境记录是保留在中国海关的电脑数据库里的,是最近5年的. 所以真正想查的话, 加拿大是有办法的.
                • 加拿大当然有记录
      • 我不太相信移民官能够马上check到你的离境时间!!!!!!!!!!!!
        • sure they can
    • 我也离开加拿大2年半了,过几天会回加拿大小住,不知道有没有问题?
      情况如下:登陆之后,申请返加纸2年,03年5月到期,03年8月收到枫叶卡!没在加拿大住过,谢谢!
      • 刚从Toronto回,2周前入境,非常顺利!
        两周前从toronto入境,因为离开已经有2年多,本以为要问许多问题,结果根本就没有问,就问我有没有带香烟和酒,就让我走了!
      • 我也离开2年半以上了,马上会回加拿大,去做面试。但面试后还会回中国处理一些事情。不知道入境是否会有问题?
        • 只要五年内不要离开超过3年,都会没有问题的!
    • My Update
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I returned here 1 months ago with lots of questions in mind. However, the whole thing was not as complicated as what I thought, still a bit hectic though.

      Airport: Pearson
      Procedure:
      1. Went through the custom desk and tried to explain my situation to the guy. He didnot want to listen. Instead, he asked me to go to the 'immigration'' office. This seems a standard procedure for PRs.
      2. In the 'immigration office' , an officer asked me a few questions. Details:
      * when did you leave?
      * What did you do in these two years?
      * How long do you intend to stay this time?
      I was asked to show:
      * Air tickets
      * Job offer letter
      * maple card
      He also asked a few casual-style questions about my background. But he didnot warn me about residency obligation. Actually, I asked him if it was true that I need to stay for two more years to keep PR status. He agreed.

      3. When I tred to claim the funding, I met some problems. An old guy asked me a lot of unrelated questions, trying to challenge me my intention. He even asked me to tell him my PhD project and tried to show me he knew about this:) I knew he had no right to do anything to me cause I had the right to enter. But it was a bit annoying. Anyway, I am legal by all means and my intention to stay is sincere. After about 30 minutes chat, I got a 'welcome back' from him with smile. I do think this is not necessary for most of guying who are returning. Just please be prepared to be chanllenged.

      Ok then. Hope this helps更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 不错。